Showing posts with label water baptism. Show all posts
Showing posts with label water baptism. Show all posts

Thursday, December 29, 2011

TERTULLIAN'S BAPTISM by FIRE ...

The Difference between
John the Baptist's Baptism
and CHRIST'S


Tertullian Book III Chapter 10,
Excerpts
 ( Note: … indicates omitted phrases or sentences which tended to obfuscate the focus of the writing.)

OF JOHN’S BAPTISM [ i.e., John the Baptist]

…The baptism announced by John [ the Baptist ] formed the subject, even at that time, of a question, proposed by the LORD Himself+ indeed to the Pharisees, whether that baptism were heavenly, or truly earthly: about which they were unable to give a consistent answer, inasmuch as they understood not, because they believed not.

But we… are able to determine that that baptism was divine indeed, … but human in its nature: for it conveyed nothing celestial, but it fore-ministered to things celestial; being, to wit, appointed over repentance, which is in man’s power.

In fact, the doctors of the law and the Pharisees, who were unwilling to “believe,” did not “repent” either.

But if repentance is a thing human, its baptism must necessarily be of the same nature:

Else, if it had been celestial, it would have given both the HOLY SPIRIT  and remission of sins.

But none either pardons sins or freely grants the SPIRIT
save GOD only.

Even the LORD Himself+ said that the SPIRIT would not descend on any other condition, but that HE+ should first ascend to THE FATHER.

What the LORD
was not yet conferring,
of course
the servant
could not furnish.


Accordingly, in the Acts of the Apostles, we find that men who had “John’s baptism” had not received the HOLY SPIRIT, whom they knew not even by hearing.

That, then, was no celestial thing
which furnished
no celestial (endowments):


Whereas the very thing which was celestial in John — the SPIRIT of Prophecyso completely failed, after the transfer of the whole SPIRIT to the LORD, that he presently sent to inquire whether HE Whom+ he had himself preached, Whom+ he had pointed out when coming to him, were “‘HE+.”

And so “the baptism of repentance” was dealt with as if it were a candidate for the remission and sanctification shortly about to follow in CHRIST: for in that John used to preach “baptism for the remission of sins,” the declaration was made with reference to future remission;

If it be true, (as it is,) that repentance is antecedent, remission subsequent; and this is “preparing the way.” But he who “prepares” does not himself “perfect,” but procures for another to perfect.

John himself professes that the celestial things are not his, but CHRIST'S+, by saying, “He who is from the earth speaketh concerning the earth; HE+ Who+ comes from the realms above is above all;”

And again, by saying that he “baptized in repentance only, but that ONE+ would shortly come Who+ would baptize in the SPIRIT and fire;” — of course because

true and stable faith
is baptized
with water,
unto salvation;

pretended and weak faith
is baptized
with fire,
unto judgment.

Tertullian, circa 160-240, presbyter in the Christian church at Carthage, N. Africa, who wrote numerous apologies, works against heretics, and exhortations to other Christians. A Pre-Nicene writer.

Saturday, September 27, 2008

More EARLY CHRISTIANS SPEAK... about Baptism...


EARLY CHRISTIANS SPEAK… more about water baptism..
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From Firmilian (c. 256) 5. 393
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The Second birth, which occurs in baptism, begets sons of God.
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Here’s an anonymous quote from the Early Christian writers:
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.…Being baptized in the name of Christ, they have been redeemed with the precious blood of the Lord. 5. 675.
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The next two quotes are from the Apostolic Constitutions, complied (c. 390):
When they wish to repent, we receive the pagans into the church to hear the Word. However, we do not admit them to communion until they have received the seal of baptism and are made complete Christians. 7. 414.
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He who out of contempt will not be baptized will be condemned as an unbeliever. 7. 457.
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from the Canticle of Mar (date uncertain) 8.654 :
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[Dark] I was in sins. But I am comely. For I have repented and converted. I have put away that hateful hue in baptism. For He, the Savior of all creatures, has washed me in His innocent blood.
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Wednesday, September 24, 2008

EARLY CHRISTIANS SPEAK... Cyprian, c. 250 A.D.



From the Writings of Cyprian, circa 250 A.D....
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By the help of the water of new birth, the stain of former years was washed away, and a light from above, serene and pure, infused into my reconciled heart. Then, by the agency of the Spirit breathed from Heaven, a second birth restored me to a new man. ANF 5. 276


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The Lord, when He came, manifested the truth of baptism... in commanding that this faithful water---the water of life eternal--- should be given to believers in baptism. ANF 5. 360.


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In the baptism of water, there is received the remission of sins. ANF 5. 497

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...from that death which once the blood of Christ extinguished, and from which [death] the saving grace of baptism and of our Redeemer has delivered us. ANF 5. 332.

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[ more of Cyprian to come ]



Friday, August 8, 2008

ANTE-NICENE CHURCH on BAPTISM

Some Thoughts
from the Ante-Nicene Church

on Baptism

taken from the Ante-Nicene Fathers,

the volumes of writings of the Early Church


From Barnabas (c. 70-130 A.D.) recorded in the ANF 1.144.....


Blessed are they trusting in the cross, going down into the water... We indeed descend into the water full of sins and defilement. However, we come up, bearing fruit in our heart, having the fear [of God] and the trust in Jesus in our spirit.



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From Hermas (c. 150 A.D.) recorded in ANF 2.49.....


Before a man bears the name of the SON of GOD, he is dead. But when he receives the seal, he lays aside his deadness and obtains life.The seal, then is the water. They descend into the water dead, and they arise alive.



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From Justin Martyr (c.160) recorded in ANF 1.183....

In order that we may obtain in the water THE REMISSION OF SINS formerly committed, there is pronounced over him who chooses to be born again, and has repented of his sins, the name of GOD the FATHER and LORD of the Universe... And in the name of JESUS CHRIST... and in the name of the HOLY SPIRIT.


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to be continued...